Stabilizing 10 Languages

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(Warning - I'm pretty busy these days, so I won't be able to post very often, or edit more than once in a while. That being said, welcome, and enjoy!)


I've managed to collect quite a few languages in my life - 10 to be exact. And over the past few years, I've decided I didn't want to be one of those guys who used to know how to speak a language, but can no longer do it. Here is an example of that:


I don't want that to happen, although no TV shows are hunting me down to my knowledge. I want to be able to use a language on demand; I don't want to require days, hours or even more than a few seconds to be able to hold a decent conversation. What is a decent conversation to me? I'm pretty happy with conversation at the B2 level of the CEFR. I've found out that in order to converse comfortably at the B2 level on demand, I need to be right in the middle of the level, and I'll call this B2+.


Now I believe I hear this level mentioned the most when talking about fluency. Others say one needs to be advanced (C1/C2), and that I'm not a polyglot because I only speak 2 languages at advanced levels. To be honest, I don't really care. I consider myself a polyglot, and I'm happy with B2+. But here are my current levels, and you'll see my problem:


English - native

Spanish - C1

Thai - B2+

Mandarin - B2+

Russian - B2+

Japanese - B2

French - B2

Korean - B2

Tagalog - B2

Swahili - B1


I love increasing the number of languages I can speak, and I've added 2 in the past 2 years - Korean and Tagalog. But some of my languages have deteriorated over the years, and I've finally decided it's time to shore them all up and push them to B2+. I expect this to take some time. But when I'm finished, I believe I'll be able to use them instantly when I want, as long as I maintain them once every 3 weeks. That maintenance schedule works out nicely, because that just means I'll need to study one language for a couple hours every other day. The rest of the time I'll be playing with them.  


I'm reading the Malazan Book of the Fallen.

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Here is my plan of attack.


Tagalog - 2 months. It's my newest language, and I'm on a roll, so it makes sense to stay on it 'til I'm finished. I'm actually writing a Tagalog textbook along the way, which I hope to share eventually, and that motivates me not to switch yet.


Korean - 3 months. My second newest language, it's definitely deteriorated since my extreme year long spurt in the language ending in September of last year. But I feel it come back really quickly when I converse. A hard 3 month pull should put me permanently in the B2+ range.


Swahili - 6 months. There are only traces of this language left in my brain. The last time I spoke it was in 2002, and I thought I'd never use it again. But fate had different plans. I was a volunteer teacher in the US Peace Corps, and one of my former students has asked me for support a few times over the years for her women's group. Then about a year ago, she told me she her group wanted to build a school, and that was what all the small projects I helped her with were leading up to. So I decided to help, and she has made great progress. The school opens next summer, and I want to go to the opening ceremony. So I've got a clear goal in mind, and I'm going to revive my Swahili and keep it alive for the rest of my days!


French - 3 months. This the language I've been the laziest about. I learned it for about a year, reached a strong B1 level, then just maintained it occasionally. It dipped back down to A2 for a while, but since I put it on a regular review schedule, it's creeped up by itself. This is the only language I've studied that behaves like so many of those "learn 30 languages at a time" people claim. Anyway, I clearly need to re-learn and keep my grammar this time, which will be a pleasure.


Japanese - 3 months. In the beginning, I put a huge spurt in to learn Japanese. I put in about 3000 hours in 3 years, and reached a high B1. After several additional 1-3 month spurts over a few years, I finally reached B2+. But inconsistent maintenance has made it deteriorate, so a tune-up is due. Japanese is the hardest language for me, so I expect it to take a full 3 months.


Russian & Mandarin - 2 months each. These are both B2+ right now, but I feel the way I neglected them over the past couple years will eventually have a detrimental effect on them. Better to be proactive. 



I'm reading the Malazan Book of the Fallen.

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Awesome!!! Best of luck! :)


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Khadijah.Davis wrote:
Awesome!!! Best of luck! :)

Thanks!

I'm reading the Malazan Book of the Fallen.

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Well, I've finally admitted to myself that my Russian, which I badly neglected while learning Korean, has deteriorated more than I thought. I kept thinking it was going to spring back after I put it on a regular maintenance schedule, but that's not happening. It makes sense really - it was the youngest of my languages that I neglected. So I'm changing the order of my resuscitation plan:


Tagalog (in work) - 1 month

Korean - 3 months

Swahili - 6 months

Russian - 3 months

French - 3 months

Japanese - 2 months

Mandarin - 2 months


The wake-up call I got was another poor (B1) Russian conversation yesterday, and a really good (B2) Japanese conversation today. Japanese survived the period of neglect quite well, which pleases me, especially since I consider it to be my hardest language. 


I'm reading the Malazan Book of the Fallen.

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Wow! Do you study all of these languages at once? How? :D


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Khadijah.Davis wrote:
Wow! Do you study all of these languages at once? How? :D

By my definition, I only study one language at a time, and I maintain the others. For example, I study Tagalog 3-4 hrs/day, 5 days a week. I maintain my other languages by studying them for 2 hrs once every 2 weeks.


I'm reading the Malazan Book of the Fallen.

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I've decided that it's time to finish up Tagalog. Tomorrow will be the last day of my 10 month "spurt". After that, I will study it for only 2 hrs, once a week. I'm going to do it once a week instead of my usual once every 2 weeks because I'm a low B2; I'm quitting before I'd like to. Why? Because for the last 3 weeks in a row, despite the fact that I accelerated my learning pace to once a week from about 2 months ago, I had poor B1-like conversations in Korean. So due to my paranoia about Korean, I'm going to do a spurt in it immediately.


The chart above says I want to do it for 3 months; we'll see how it goes. I won't be able to study it as hard as I did last spurt (7-8 hrs/day) because I'm so busy with the site now. I'd love to travel there right now, but I dare not leave the country now with all this responsibility. I need to work on and check things daily, and I fear poor internet, poor ergonomics, and possibly needing to do things in my home town for the company, though I can't imagine what that would entail.


So beginning Sunday, it's hello again Korean. Wish me luck!

I'm reading the Malazan Book of the Fallen.

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leosmith wrote:
I've decided that it's time to finish up Tagalog. Tomorrow will be the last day of my 10 month "spurt". After that, I will study it for only 2 hrs, once a week. I'm going to do it once a week instead of my usual once every 2 weeks because I'm a low B2; I'm quitting before I'd like to. Why? Because for the last 3 weeks in a row, despite the fact that I accelerated my learning pace to once a week from about 2 months ago, I had poor B1-like conversations in Korean. So due to my paranoia about Korean, I'm going to do a spurt in it immediately.
The chart above says I want to do it for 3 months; we'll see how it goes. I won't be able to study it as hard as I did last spurt (7-8 hrs/day) because I'm so busy with the site now. I'd love to travel there right now, but I dare not leave the country now with all this responsibility. I need to work on and check things daily, and I fear poor internet, poor ergonomics, and possibly needing to do things in my home town for the company, though I can't imagine what that would entail.
So beginning Sunday, it's hello again Korean. Wish me luck!


Jalboseo!



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jfarrah wrote:
Jalboseo!

고마와요!

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I got embarrassed in French on Friday. My teacher, even though she was just a community tutor, and even though she agreed not to correct me, just couldn't let errors pass. She stopped the conversation several times for trivial reasons, and that killed my confidence. I spent most of the lesson worried about making mistakes, which sucks. I may decide to move French up on my to-do list; we'll see how the next few lessons go.

I'm reading the Malazan Book of the Fallen.

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The teacher was cooperating with the student. :)

Charlyn Amoin

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Charlyn wrote:
The teacher was cooperating with the student. :)

Lol, really? By doing what I asked her not to do?

I'm reading the Malazan Book of the Fallen.

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Sorry, I forgot to add, " not cooperating." lol. That was what I meant to say. hahahah

Charlyn Amoin

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Amazing! I hope I have the same energy to learn all that.

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Wow, how do you manage to balance all those language? My languages are only Swahili and English (and a local one too). Am hoping to learn a new language here, probably Spanish or French just unsure how the experience will be lol

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Ok, I have a bit of free time tonight so I'll do an update. Due to complicated personal issues, I decided to travel as follows:

Nov - Korea

Dec thru Feb - Thailand

Mar & Apr - Philippines

So my 3 month spurt in Korean turned into 6 weeks. But the good news is that I'm the best I've been in the language, and I'll be in Pusan for 1 month, trying to make it even better.


Updating my plan of attack to reflect my travel:


Korean - 1 month in country

Tagalog - 3 months + 2 months in country

Swahili - 4 months + 1 month in country

Russian - 2 months

French - 2 months

Japanese - 2 months

Mandarin - 2 months


total = 21 months



I'm reading the Malazan Book of the Fallen.

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Wow! Enjoy Leo!  

Charlyn Amoin

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I'm in Pusan now:



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Beautiful pic Leo.  

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I started this project today to help me stabilize these 10 languages. From the video description "This is the first of what I hope will be many log entries. The final goal is to speak all my languages "well", and to be able to switch between them somewhat seamlessly. I also hope these will help get me over my camera shyness. These are unplanned, unrehearsed, one take...you get the picture. I want to be spontaneous, so this is the best way imo. Anyway, this is the first one so I struggled. I got stopped cold when I tried to switch to Russian, so I only spoke Korean, Japanese, Mandarin, Thai, Spanish, French and English. This video gives me lots of room to improve, haha."





I'm reading the Malazan Book of the Fallen.

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Your Spanish sounds really good. Just wow!!!!!

-Ari-

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Ari wrote:
Your Spanish sounds really good. Just wow!!!!!

Thank you!  

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leosmith"s 112618 log

"Ok, today I started out with Swahili and Russian so I wouldn't forget them. I spoke all 10 languages, but my Swahili was almost non-existent, and my Tagalog was really weak. The other thing that I need to improve on is content. I kept repeating the same simple, boring stuff. But it was a good effort over all :)"



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Wow! Superb!

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Wag kang makalimot sa Tagalog Leo! lol  

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Charlyn wrote:
Wag kang makalimot sa Tagalog Leo! lol :smile:

I promise not to. I will study it for 3 months in Thailand, then spend 2 month in the Philippines. After that I should be in really good shape.

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Ok Leo. I believe you will be too!  

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OMG - I forgot Japanese today  


(edit - I mean I accidentally omitted it; I didn't get tongue-tied when trying to speak it or something.)

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"I used a list to remember my languages, so I got all 10, but I think I'm going to stop doing Swahili. I clearly can't speak the language, so it's a waste of time to try to recall it on video. I'll add it back after I start studying it again (May-ish)."

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This is amazibg and inspiring. That is a lot to learn and keep up with. I commend you on your dedication. Learning one language is hard enough let alone 10. Kudos to you!

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TaylorFabio wrote:
This is amazibg and inspiring. That is a lot to learn and keep up with. I commend you on your dedication. Learning one language is hard enough let alone 10. Kudos to you!

Thanks  

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Maintaining conversational level on 3 makes my brain hurt 

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Stabilizing your ten languages?

I just might return to your log every now and then.

Someone else also is doing something to stabilize some languages.

His approach differs from yours. Because you decided to stick to exactly ten of them, at least for now.

But the underlying principle doesn't differ that much. He also aims to strenghten the Language Brain Pathways.

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SGP wrote:
Someone else also is doing something to stabilize some languages.

You've got me curious now. Does this person's avatar remind one of the Count of Monte Cristo before the prison escape?

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Wow - it’s been 2 years since I’ve written an entry, so here’s an update. Although I didn’t follow all the way through with my original plan above of doing spurts of several months in each languages, I was able to partially reach my goal. The good news is that I now speak all my languages at a level that I’m happy with, and I’m able to use them instantly on demand. The bad news is that I’m still studying them more frequently than I’d like to. 

If you’ll recall, I want to be able to maintain the level that I now enjoy by studying a single language every other day. I study 9 languages, so the period between languages would be 9 X 2 = 18 days. I have been experimenting with the period as mentioned this post of mine in language-learners:

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I'm maintaining 9 languages, all of which I believe are B2/C1. Some are better than others, and thus require less maintenance. I study Spanish/Thai once every 24 days, Japanese/Mandarin/Russian/French 12 days, Korean/Swahili 6 days, and Tagalog once every 2 days (mainly because I'm also writing a textbook for that language tbh).

Because of my time consuming writing activities, I'm not "learning" any new languages, so I'm experimenting with the optimal period for each language. How do I know when the period is too short? I struggle having an impromptu conversation in that language, and sometimes experience interference.

I'll relate an experience I had with Swahili. I learned the language 20 years ago to a B1 level, then dropped it completely for 17 years. Last December I relearned it for 3 months, with techniques I'd acquired since dropping it, to prepare for a trip to Tanzania, and reached a low B2 level. Tagalog, my newest language, suffered really bad in the mean time; terrible interferrence from Swahili. After coming home from Tanzania, I put Tagalog on a 2 day schedule and Swahili on a 12 day schedule. Tagalog recovered in about a month. 6 months later, Swahili was in pretty bad shape, so I switched it with Tagalog. After only 2 sessions, Swahili was fine again and started to interfere with my Tagalog once more. So I put Swahili on 6 days, and Tagalog 2. I'm fortunate enough to have the flexibility of changing my schedule to optimize these right now.

What do I do in my maintenance sessions? Conversation, reading some text that also has audio, watching part of a movie/TV show. I write (scriptorium) in my languages that have different scripts. With my weaker languages I may also study grammar, write an essay, etc. I typically spend 2-3 hours total.



The chart shows the current period vs the goal. Although it doesn’t look too bad, my goal is to study 3.5 times/week, but the current periods above require me to study 9 times/week! On the plus side, I’m doing it and it’s working fine because I’m stuck at home now. Also, as those who follow me know, the total hours I spend studying per week, 18 to 27, is a light load for me. I still have a goal, though, of studying only 10 hrs/week, because I will be able to maintain that even during my most extensive travels. Reaching that goal will ensure that I have all 10 languages where I want them to be for the rest of my life. It’s my dream.

And there’s more good news. I have messed around with the learning periods to ensure that no language deteriorates, and the combination above works really well for me. But actually, I feel there is a very gradual improvement going on in most if not all of my languages. The most noticeable of these has been French. Here is a note that I sent to a friend last week:

wrote:
I told my last French teacher that my French sucks because I stopped studying it daily only one year after starting it. I've been saying this out of habit and realized that it wasn't true as soon as it escaped my mouth. This was at the beginning of our conversation, and she said "No way. Your French is great. It's at least C1 if not C2 up to this point." I said that's because we hadn't talked for long, and we continued to talk. At the end of the lesson she told me she thought my level was at a very minimum B2 but probably better. Now I'm regretting not having started my remaining European languages earlier, since they take so little effort to improve in.

The remaining European languages that I’m talking about are Portuguese, German and Italian. I am very tempted to start Portuguese now, because I have the time. But I will likely wait until I have finished the final re-write of Tagalog Lite (my Tagalog Grammar book). Here is a note I wrote to my proofreader about the book:


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I finished the first re-write, but decided to create a word frequency list for colloquial Tagalog using the 110 six-minute conversations I have on this site and do a final rewrite based on it. The list is back from my freelancer and being tweaked by me now, so I should start the final rewrite shortly.

I spent a huge amount of time on the first rewrite (500+). I’m guessing the final rewrite will take at least 300hrs, and then it will be time to go through review/editing, do all the new audio recordings, flashcards, etc., which will probably double that time. It’s a big job, and if I don’t do it now it may escape from me.

However, I may compromise. After getting into a rhythm writing the book, I may feel that I can afford spending 2-3hrs a day studying Portuguese. I may need to reduce the maintenance on my other languages to pull it off; that remains to be seen.

I'm reading the Malazan Book of the Fallen.

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I’ve gained a few pounds lately, which have made my pants a bit tight, so I’ve decided to get proactive and do a fast today. I realize that’s tmi, but it’s a segue to me deciding to do an entry since I cleared my schedule for the fast and don’t know what else to do with myself.


I’ve made an adjustment to the time between study sessions for Tagalog and Korean. I’m setting them both to three days. This is a minor relaxation for Tagalog, which I am doing very well in, but a big tightening for Korean. I’m not getting worse in Korean, but my desire to improve more quickly in this language has increased recently.


I’ve noticed that, in my weaker languages especially, how satisfied I am with the conversation is very dependent on the teacher. For most languages, less than 10% of my tutors just don’t get the relaxed conversation sessions I like to have. This is for many reasons – they want to use their teaching skills; they don’t want to hear their language butchered; they like to lecture; etc. But for Korean, my dissatisfaction rate is much higher (maybe 1 in 3), and the teachers are fine. The problem is clearly mine, and as usual, it’s mostly me not remembering or recognizing vocabulary. When I’m doing an intense study spurt, I remember the words, but they have been slipping away more than I’d like when I’m on a relaxed schedule.


The other problem is my Korean listening. Unlike all my other languages except for Mandarin, having years of experience with the language in and of itself doesn’t appear to improve my listening by much, if any. So the dissatisfying conversations and poor listening skills have prompted this change.


Three days is the shortest period I can afford to give it at this point. This is because I am still rewriting Tagalog Lite, and I feel I need to keep a high awareness in that language. So I am only willing to increase Tagalog to three days, which allows me to go to three for Korean.


Regarding Tagalog Lite – I finished thoroughly reviewing the frequency list, and realized that it will take more than the 300 hrs I estimated. I’m thinking 500+. But it’s ok, because I’m planning to do my traveling in November this year, covid restrictions permitting, which gives me plenty of time to finish.  

I'm reading the Malazan Book of the Fallen.

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